Goldendoodle Generations
If you’ve done any research on goldendoodles, you will have encountered the “F”s. F1, F2, F1B, F2B, F3……. Confused yet? We will try to simplify and explain what this means.
The “F” designation refers to how far removed the goldendoodle is from the “Foundation” breed. (Honestly, I’m not sure if “F” stands for Foundation, but it helps me remember!) The Foundation breeds of a goldendoodle are the Golden Retriever and Poodle. So:
F1 Golden Retriever X Poodle
First Generation, One generation from the Foundation breed. An F1 has a mother who is either a golden retriever or poodle, and a father who is either a golden retriever or poodle. Zoey, Oakley, Lilly and a few others are all F1s.
F2 Goldendoodle X Goldendoodle
Second Generation, two generations from the Foundation breed. An F2’s parents were F1 goldendoodles; its grandparents were golden retrievers and poodles. Due to the recessive genes carried by each first generation parent, this breeding is unpredictable in the coat types of the puppies. If we have this breeding, we will coat test the puppies so each family will know the coat type of their pup.
That’s pretty straightforward but here’s where is starts getting confusing……..the “b”s. “B” stands for “Backcross”, it shows up when you breed back to one of the foundation breeds. USUALLY, the “b” indicates that the breeder has bred back to a poodle, but technically it could be bred back to a golden retriever. Music City Goldendoodle ONLY breeds back to poodles so ALL of our “b”s will be bred back to a poodle. So:
F1B F1 Goldendoodle X Poodle
Music City Goldendoodle f1Bs are 75% Poodle and 25% Golden Retriever. We recommend this generation for people who have allergies. With a poodle parent, each puppy will receive one copy of the poodle genes for coat type, thus a more reliable choice for people with bad dog hair allergies. F1bs have wavy/loose curl to tight curly coats. Truffles, Tessa, Lacey and several others are all F1bs.
F1B F1 Goldendoodle X Poodle
Music City Goldendoodle f1Bs are 75% Poodle and 25% Golden Retriever. We recommend this generation for people who have allergies. With a poodle parent, each puppy will receive one copy of the poodle genes for coat type, thus a more reliable choice for people with bad dog hair allergies. F1bs have wavy/loose curl to tight curly coats. Truffles, Tessa, Lacey and several others are all F1bs.
MULTI-GEN - the "new" generation
This can be anything past the F1b generation. While some breeders still use the F2, F2b, F3, F1bb, etc, designations - it's easier just calling them "multigenerational". We have learned a lot throughout the years, including about coat genetics. It's not as simple and straightforward as we used to think - genes are funny things! If anyone remembers the Punett Square in high school, it's that same sort of thing. As an example, would you believe that even in the basic "F1b" generation, the coat type possible in the litter will be everything from 50/50 to full poodle? Just imagine when you start tossing some other variables in the mix, lol! The most important factor in a parent dog is not their "F" designation,it is the coat genes they carry. Since most people are familiar with the basic "F" designations (F1, F1b), we will still refer to litters as having that coat type, but will also reference the genetic makeup of the parent dogs. Coat types will be wavy to curly and they should be very allergy friendly. If you'd like more information about coat genetics, email Jennifer at [email protected]. She is the only one crazy enough to plunge into the "F" situation :-)
I hope this sheds some light on all those confusing letters and numbers.
This can be anything past the F1b generation. While some breeders still use the F2, F2b, F3, F1bb, etc, designations - it's easier just calling them "multigenerational". We have learned a lot throughout the years, including about coat genetics. It's not as simple and straightforward as we used to think - genes are funny things! If anyone remembers the Punett Square in high school, it's that same sort of thing. As an example, would you believe that even in the basic "F1b" generation, the coat type possible in the litter will be everything from 50/50 to full poodle? Just imagine when you start tossing some other variables in the mix, lol! The most important factor in a parent dog is not their "F" designation,it is the coat genes they carry. Since most people are familiar with the basic "F" designations (F1, F1b), we will still refer to litters as having that coat type, but will also reference the genetic makeup of the parent dogs. Coat types will be wavy to curly and they should be very allergy friendly. If you'd like more information about coat genetics, email Jennifer at [email protected]. She is the only one crazy enough to plunge into the "F" situation :-)
I hope this sheds some light on all those confusing letters and numbers.
